Channeling Ascended Master Djwhal Khul with Janet Treloar

Alex Ferrari 0:00
How can we release collective fear and anchor more light into the world while this chaos is happening around us?

Janet Treloar 0:07
The best thing about human life is the mystery that there is always wonder around every corner. And should you wish in your heart's desire, do embrace that. And when people ask, we suddenly started realizing what he was doing. We had been waiting for this. We have been prepping people, not just for years or decades, ignores that it will be tested time and time again by the universe, almost as if to say, Have you got it yet?

Alex Ferrari 0:57
Now, before we jump into this episode, if this conversation resonates with you. Please like, subscribe and share this with whoever you feel that needs to hear it. Your support helps us keep bringing this information out into the world and helps us awaken this planet. Thank you. I like to welcome to the show Janet Treloar, how you doing Janet?

Janet Treloar 1:21
Hi, I'm great. Thank you really, really pleased to be here.

Alex Ferrari 1:24
Oh, thank you so much for being here. I'm I've been a fan of what you've been doing for a little bit now, and we're very excited to have you on the show, because we've had a lot of channels on the show and but you channel a very interesting being. His name is Zac, but he is, can you explain he is? He's part, he's part of Djwhal Khul, as he ascended master Djwhal Khul. Can you explain that?

Janet Treloar 1:49
Probably a good thing I do, because people used to ask me, and I, I came up with this term that he is an aspect of Djwhal Khul, but that does make it sound like his, you know, sort of like his, thumb or something, is like a part of him, Zachariah himself. It's a life that he lived, the persona. Let's put it this way. So the entity, the energy that he is, the higher consciousness, is dwell call, and it's probably quite a lot of others as well. He chooses to package it for us as this being Zachariah. His full title that he gives himself is Zachariah of Syria. But as he always says, You're not going to find him in any particular books or anything. It was a really, really gorgeous life that he lived really close to the Earth, really part of humanity, like community. And so he projects this persona, which also, I think the thing that's slightly different about Zach is he wants to appear to be like your mate. He wants to have a chat with you. He wants you to be able to not think, Oh, I can't ask this question or that question. It's not elevated. It's not it's not this or that enough. He loves it to be able to just be able to shoot the breeze. And a lot of his way of working, I've found, is also, as is talking, there's certain things he will be, of course, very serious, but there's a light heartedness, and he'll make little jokes and things to get people laughing and opening up the heart. So he has come through. We've asked him to come through as Djwhal Khul and it's really interesting, because the message is the same, but it's a lot more Well, I would use the word serious. It's quite direct, it's succinct, and it's of its time, of course, dwell call was like, we all are a product of their time as well. So yeah, it's good to clear that up, actually, because I call him an aspect, but actually he is dwell call. But it's also all the other incarnations and other beings that he is all all coming through in this little Zachariah package.

Alex Ferrari 4:02
So it would be kind of like Zachariah was a past life of drug cool, is what you're saying. So it would be like if I was a Roman soldier with who who drank a lot and smoked cigars, as I assume Roman soldiers did back then, and he be very Grif. That would be the person, personality of the person that I would be channeling for my higher self. He just, that's why I chose kind of thing.

Janet Treloar 4:29
Yeah, yeah. I mean, we didn't really know why Zac did it for a long time, until people ask. It's like everything you got to have the right question, don't you? And when people ask, we suddenly started realizing what he was doing, because as a channel, I would bring through whatever most compatible higher vibrational energy for the questions that people were asking. So we would have all these beautiful high beings from all sorts of different types of realms. But he really came forward and. When it was asked for an energy or a higher being to come forward that could ask pretty much answer anything. So it was like, he's like this voice box for the universe, I always think. And you know, whether he's talking to people, experts on their particular fields, he seems to be able to just sort of slot straight in with whatever they're actually talking about, while Steve still keeping this sort of quite light hearted persona that he has too.

Alex Ferrari 5:29
Now, you're, you had, you were sick for a little while, correct? And during that time there was, there was an illness, and you had to kind of go into an inner journey at that point. Did you lose your ability to channel during that time?

Janet Treloar 5:45
Lose is an interesting word. Okay, yeah, because, and, yeah, this is, this is probably, hopefully, quite useful for people as well that might be going through a similar thing the way the energies are. We all know what's going on at the moment. The I mean, amped up to the max, what is actually happening in the world, and the energy and it is sort of forcing different parts, almost revisiting different parts of us, to move through and I pretty much not in an arrogant way, but sort of thought I've really worked on this. I'd worked on my stuff. I've worked on energy stuff for decades and decades and decades, and was in what I felt was a really nice groove with everything that I was doing. And then I got really sick. Now the sickness really affected my nervous system on a physical level, and something that I've really learned from all of this is how the energy is the perceived, sort of invisible energies, and the higher vibrations, and particularly when you're channeling come through, one of the ways that it sort of formulates and moves through into the physical being is through The nervous system. Initially, I tried to sort of keep going and tried to do things, and I was doing all the energy stuff that I was doing, but actually I just got sicker and sicker and sicker and I mean, I'll probably write a book in the future. I'm still researching it. This, this, this whole change in our nervous system, because our nervous system has gone through a massive upgrade, or ever, ever late Zackism, he has his own words. Ever late through it. And for me personally, I mean, well, four years, four years, I was really sort of poorly, but it was after a little while I could actually channel again. So what I actually found was actually the channeling was making me worse. I had to really pull back. I was a complete and utter out of body trance medium, and I had all of these protocols and safety ways of actually doing things, but I completely and utterly let one of the reasons why having Zac as well was sort of this compatibility with my body, and so he could come in and, I mean, he would literally be all the way through me, and I was out, completely out with the nervous system as it was. It's a bit like putting things on frayed edges, you know, like, if you, you know, the the electrics are blown, and then you're pulsing this crazy energy while you're trying to heal it. So when I did start channeling again, Zac and I found a new way to channel, which was actually like a heart transmission. So he was going through and actually doing straight heart transmission. And now it's more of a full embodied so I'm still trance. I just don't go completely out. So it's a lesson for me as well about really owning and being myself and not going, here you go. Here's my body, here's my consciousness. You have it all you take over, and I'll just sit in my meadow making daisy chains and just listening and just carrying on. So this is like a real amalgamation of us. He still sounds the same. A lot of people knew Zac, and I think he uses the same voice, and there is resonance in the voice as well, which is to do with the energy transmission. But it's interesting. If so, I wouldn't say I ever lost it, but what I needed to have was move through knowledge into wisdom, and then not just have the wisdom, but actually put it into effect, to take a step back and to do something completely different, to actually go all the things I've learned, all the things I think I know, I've actually got to put it to one side and be open to this completely and utterly new way of being. My body is completely different, and so my energy is completely different. So Zac is still Zac. I'm me, but I'm sort of me point 2.3 whatever we want, like we all do through life. We we always, forever change. Changing, aren't we? We're always forever changing. And I mean, the times we're living in now, it's massive. So I needed to be back. He needed to push me back at this moment. I think whilst coming up to the end of the year, loads is going on,

Alex Ferrari 10:14
And we'll definitely talk about that in a little bit. But what I find fascinating is so you started channeling, and then your nervous system wasn't prepped for it, essentially, or was it was coming in too much.

Janet Treloar 10:27
So I, I actually trained as a trans medium way back in my early 20s. I was taught mediumship from the age of 12. And, you know, I'm not of these younger generations. I'm an older generation where, at that time, people still sort of hailed the trance medium, and the energy was different. So you really did have to have a natural affinity. I didn't want to have that affinity. I really wanted to I trained purely with the idea of, let's discipline it so I can sort of put it in a box, and then I can go out partying with my friends, and I can go and live my life and do these things when I was sort of focused upon as you are a trance medium, and we need to train you and discipline you how to actually do this. I never thought I would be working in it. However, I did become very aware of what I needed to do with my energy system, because the supernatural was so much more my world than the natural world. It was like my default was to go into these other realms. And I really didn't want to. I just wanted to be growing up this normal kid, teenager. I was working in the city in London from the age of 16, so I just wanted to really, I just wanted to be a kid, you know, I wanted to grow up young adult and just do what I was actually doing. I always kept aware, though, of this discipline, the energy management, meditation that had been taught to me, because it seemed to be, if I could keep myself in check, and I could keep the energies in check, I would go into things. But it was, it was something that I was quite embarrassed of, and so I'd really, really keep it in check. And then later on, I trained in lots and lots of different fields, worked on myself, all the stuff that we do, and then I came back to it, but I'd actually been channeling and channeling very healthily. And it become I actually moved away from therapy and teaching everything I did, because the channeling was such a big thing everyone wanted. It was before we were doing really much on Well, it was Skype, then before zoom or anything like that. So people would come in from all over the place and have these amazing sessions and doing workshops. When I got sick, though I didn't realize what actually, actually happened to me. I got very, very sick with the nerve agents and different stuff that was actually going on, and it really broke down on a physical level. I was always looking at things from an energy level, and I used to I was the right gym buddy. I'd go to the gym almost every day and keep myself really healthy. But where it actually broke everything down, what I discovered for me at that time, in hindsight, I just wish I'd discovered it sooner. I was doing everything energetic to actually help myself. But, like I said, it's like this frayed system. I needed to heal that, and that's taken long time. So it wasn't so much that the channeling. I wasn't prepped for it, but I was, you know, it's when you're really, really injured. I would I was so close to going to being off this mortal coil, I bear to think how close I actually was, you know, my husband, my friend, no one thought I was going to make it at all for quite some time. So as I've rebuilt, a big part of my intention is to also have the resilience and and to actually heal. I mean, Zac does say my nervous system is actually completely and utterly changed. He said to someone, you know, if you cut me open, light will sort of come flooding out, but we're not quite at that frequency yet where it's actually going to be comfortable. So it can be a lot that's actually going through me there as well. I do think a lot of people have gone through it though, whether it's through illness, injury, whatever it might be. I went through spiritual emergency when I was a kid, which was, which is one of the reasons why they trained me from the age of 12, because it's really early when my whole energy system shattered. So where I'd really built up my energy system this time, my nervous system shattered, but it has taught me a great amount. Ain't that always the way?

Alex Ferrari 14:39
Sometimes you got to go through the tough stuff in order to learn and to grow. So it wasn't as much the channeling, because I've heard that from so many channels, that a lot of times they have to kind of ramp their nervous system up to handle the energy that comes through. But what that didn't seem to be the problem. It was your extracurricular activities that were killing you. It was too much energy work that was kind of pumping in. So. So you were solid at a 120 volt, but you were pumping in 240, 360, 480, adding on other things that weren't channeling. And that's what fried you. And then when you were fried, channeling is like, it's kind of like when you break, when you break an ankle, any kind of walking, it's you're stopping the healing. You got to stop it before you can walk again. So that's exactly what happened, okay.

Janet Treloar 15:22
I mean, I'm a huge fan of energy healing, of energy, vibrational medicines. Everything that I was doing was making me 10 times 100 times iller it was. It was this complete mind confusion of what the hell is going on here. But, um, but as you said, yeah, it was like I was plugged in on so many different levels and so much stuff going on and everything. I mean, I couldn't actually get my heart rate under 120 for over 18 months. I lost like five stone in I think it was like six months. I mean, there was everything, just all the systems in my body did not work. Everything is going count against each other, but times are different now.

Alex Ferrari 16:05
You seem fine. You see fine. Good, good. So can I mean, we've been talking about Zac. Can we bring Zac in for a handful of conference, for a conversation? I'm very fat. I'm very eager to have a conversation with him.

Janet Treloar 16:20
Oh, trust me, I can feel him on his shoulder. This is why I'm a bit sort of hyper, because I know I can feel him. I'm like, come on, seriously, wait your turn. I'm just gonna clip so get some of my hair back, because otherwise you just get this sort of panel of hair going on. Welcome, my dear, welcome, welcome.

Alex Ferrari 16:42
Thank you. Zach, thank you for being here, my friend.

Janet Treloar 16:50
Yes, you have some very on point questions. Do begin to begin? Where would you like to begin?

Alex Ferrari 16:59
Yes, you often speak about life as a mystery to be embraced rather than solved. How can we learn to live in that mystery with peace rather than fear?

Janet Treloar 17:09
First of all, it is good to remember the best thing about human life is a mystery. And of course, we understand that people say, no, no, no, but I want to know what's coming. I want to know where will I be in five years, 10 years, even tomorrow. However, by embracing the mystery, you open up far more potentials, far more potential for the wonder to come into life. If you think your normal set of ideas, what is going to come tomorrow and so forth, you have a very limited view of really the expansion in life, what it can really be now, it is natural, particularly to do with life experiences. Everybody goes through all sorts of hurdles as they go up and move into adulthood and so forth, that there can be elements of fear when the word of mystery is put into the mix, the fear of the unknown, of course, is a very regular topic of conversation for people. However, when we move into the space of our deepest knowings, and this isn't just within your heart or in your gut. It is within your whole cellular structure, the physical as well as the energetic, communicating all as one with each other. Then you can direct the mystery. Ha, a paradox, it sounds. The intention for this is by going in and being open hearted, ah, open mind, open in terms of your energy to allowing the beauty of the universe to materialize within the mystery of your own life. Then you start moving into the higher vibrations of wonder, of joy, of bliss. Then you start to attract this into your life. Does not mean to say you will not have the normal everyday ups and downs as that is what life is all about, to experience, to experience the highs and the lows, to be able to navigate the full kaleidoscope of emotions and when fear starts to come in, in terms of the mystery, remind. Remind yourself that there is always wonder around every corner, and should you wish in your heart's desire to embrace that then you can let go of the fear and actually embrace instead the mystery, and know that as you wander the lens of wonder as you imagine and manifest your life into being, along with all the loved ones and others that are around you, you then start to feel, as we all do, when we look to humanity, and are fans of humanity, that actually the mystery brings the greatest of experiences in life. Why would you really want to know exactly what is coming when you can manifest something better than what limited thinking based on life experiences of the past may bring? Understand, yes, my dear?

Alex Ferrari 20:58
Yes, yes, yes. My next question is, how do you define the purpose of human suffering within the greater fabric of the soul's evolution?

Janet Treloar 21:08
It has often been said by wise souls, and often not so wise souls as well, that the root of all is in suffering, that suffering is a part always of life, and it is through suffering the greatest of experiences come. We would like to suggest people to rethink this for the time they are living now the energy upon your planet, and indeed your whole solar system has been evaluating to such a degree frequency, layer upon layer. And of course, this particular lifetime you are living in is a time of great heart transcendence, a new era of light within this you have moved up out of the depths of the deepest levels of suffering, where suffering is a priority of human experience to gain experience. Everybody has lived so many lives. You know you can walk along the street and you will not bump into another person who is a brand new soul. There's only a few of them here. Everybody has lived so many different lives, hundreds, even 1000s, whether it be on this planet or others as well, that they have a level of spiritual maturity now to be able to gain experience through heart desire. Heart's desire has become the priority, and this Heart's Desire may involve because you are living on a world that still has polarity and nature and experience some levels of suffering, however, it is not the priority anymore. Through suffering, there is much, of course, that can be gained and learned, often with hindsight afterwards, we would encourage people instead, to look to heart's desire, to say the time of suffering and moving through it is past. It is something all my other lives have done. My future lives have been living in times of heart's desire. That is what I will connect with. That is where I will actually be and when we do come across suffering, to intend to move through it swiftly with ease and with grace, and of course, to emit and respond with kindness and compassion to all those who are in the midst of suffering, it is not that They have not ever led themselves simply for whatever reason they are going through this particular thing there the collective energy, the collaborative energy of others, can help to lift others out of suffering. So it is what you can actually do with all the knowledge you have stored, yes, from this life, but for many others as well, to be able to enlighten and to come to this place of Heart's Desire instead understand yes, my dear?

Alex Ferrari 24:29
Yes now, how can we learn to listen more clearly to our own higher guidance in everyday life?

Janet Treloar 24:36
Now, that is the billion dollar question, is it not? Haha. We look at people all over the world, and you know, they're being tapped on the shoulder, not only by their own soul and their higher selves, but the wisdom of their helpers and guides and time and time again, they then go off and they say to their friends. And loved ones. I just wish I had a sign, and everyone in the background is saying, but we've given them 20, 30, 50, already. It is about being present. It is one thing to connect and to be able to know and to listen. It is another to be aware. Okay, so what awareness needs is good listening skills, and we are talking about this not just with the hearing, but with the knowing, the heart, knowing inside and the presence. This presence could be just a simple habit of taking a little bit of time out, a few minutes. Some people may need a lot longer. Other people are quite content with just a few minutes every day when they become present, present with themself, when they truly listen. And a little trick of the trade, haha, something we can tell you to do is to then become mindful of what your intention is. Yes, be present and to ask, what is it that my heart self is looking to share with me at this time? But you can be very specific as well, particularly if you have been looking to an answer for something when you are in that present state, when you are listening to yourself, then the answers come yes from the heart space, but it is communicated through the rest of you. Some people will get this in a visual way, others in a feeling way. It can come in many, many different ways, and many will get simply that good, inner knowing voice from within. There is nobody on this planet at this time, and this is a very important point, because it has changed over the years, nobody upon this planet at this time who does not have the ability to hear their own Higher Self, to listen to have presence. And when we say the higher self, this is really the bridge between you as your personality, self, your soul, and the wisdom of the ages, the wisdom of the universe. You are a path, a fractal of everything within this universe, and therefore you have access. It is like having a library ticket to the library of everything. And therefore, within that presence, you are not just listening to yourself. You are listening to what is actually coming to you, the wisdom, the knowledge, the insight from the entirety of the universe. So it is not that you have to do something very, very specific, but you do have to have a habit. You need to actually get into a state of being where you can be present for yourself. If you are too busy, you may miss out on such things, if you are rushing around or doing lots of other things, but actually just taking those moments of presence and trust your own inner voice. Many people now will hear this in their own inner voice, and this is because your own energy is at a higher frequency to resonate in such a way that you through your own voice, can be the voice from the angels, can be the voice of your higher self. Can be the voice of the universe. Never forget the whole entirety of the universe exists within your heart. And therefore you are called the whole universe, and all his multi dimensions, and all his wisdom of the past, the present and the future, literally, I would say, at your fingertips, but that is too far away. It is right here within you and communicating through you. If you want to have a lesson at all. It is simply about learning your own skills of listening within because everybody is unique, and everybody will have their own way of doing this. Understand, yes, my dear?

Alex Ferrari 29:02
Yes, yes, yes. Now, what happens on a soul level when someone feels stuck in old energy or repetitive patterns?

Janet Treloar 29:12
This is interesting, yes, because of the particular question, what happens on a soul level? Now, the reason why I laugh is you could say that the soul goes off, puts its feet up for a little while and says, I think we might have to wait for a year or two, haha. But this is being a little bit glib. Now, what the soul notes is that every time it chooses to have another experience of incarnation, and in incarnation, whether it is on this planet or others. But let's stick for ease to this planet, to come here to Earth. It knows that it will be tested time and time again by the universe, almost as if to say. Have you got it yet? Have you understood and of course, lives will be very, very short if we got it on the very first time. Because part of the wonderful experience of living in life is, of course, to try out lots of experiences. It is often said, it is the failures that we learn from far greater than successes. But your particular question is regarding the repetitive patterns. This is something that is very, very true. Just as nature repeats a pattern every year with the seasons, it is different every time, but it is a pattern. It is a cycle everything within your universe is a cycle, and you can see them everywhere here on Earth, and it is the same with you in these lives. And as a soul, you will have a cycle of experiences every time you re engage with those experiences in another life, you could say you are going up a level, getting a bit more tricky. What you are going to go through. This is where the soul can be very, very patient. It knows that you are really homing in on all of the knowledge from the past that you gain from other lives and from other people, and, of course, from the universe, to engage. However, because you've now come up to a new level, even in a repeating pattern, you are then spiraling up, and you have to learn bit like the state of play learning a new game. You have to learn what all the moves are like a chess game before you can actually engage and actually, finally win. So the soul, you could say, is incredibly patient. It helps along the way with reminders and with nudges and showing where else you can learn these expertise to overcome and with encouragement for the fortitude to persist and to keep going until you come out the other side. And there is no one who celebrates more than your soul when you actually finally put one to bed, to actually get rid of a repeating pattern and saying, I am finally done. And the universe then hears this with its big ears and no longer send you tests within that but the repeating pattern is still going on. If you were still getting tests in that particular direction, understand yes?

Alex Ferrari 32:30
Yes, yes. Now what is happening energetically on the planet today, right now that is shaping the next wave of awakening in humanity.

Janet Treloar 32:40
I am so glad you have asked, Oh, this is a big one. Is it not blow your socks off, your hats off, and anything else that may be going on at this particular time we have, I would even say those who are watching and interesting and engaged and helping humanity. Have reverence important word this. Do not use it very often. We have reverence with the experience that is happening at this very moment, even as we speak. Haha. Do you see how well this was organized for us to be speaking at this particular point in time, and this will be encoded in the transmission so that everybody can bask as if sunbathing in the energy, talking of the sun. So the solar rays, there is a number of elements, cosmically, celestially, you could call them. That is happening, not only between the planets and far out reaching planets of your solar system and beyond, in your cuboid of the universe with this energy that is being called, I think the label the humans have given it three eye Atlas is coming in very good, close and a bit like, you know, poking the bear, haha, the energy is very, very close to the sun, and the sun is at a point where it is being driven by very, very deep energy that is putting out a lot of solar rays, a lot of cosmic energies, galleries and so forth, whilst also the earth, and indeed everything living upon the earth is in a very open state of, how do we call it? Well, yes, it is a bit like everybody's opened up their doors and their windows, and the wind is coming in, you know, it is allowed this permissive state of being due to the electromagnetic energy and other now you want to say, okay, all of this, yes, yes, yes, these things are happening. But what does that mean? And this is what we are coming to, the cracks. This is allowing. Such a powerful surge of energy, of frequency, of plasma energy, electrical energy, that is going deep into the solar plexus and everywhere else, of everything that is living. So you might say, well, the plants and so forth don't have solar plexus. It is immersing everything with a frequency, a bit like when you are listening to a beautiful classical music concert or an opera, and you get that crescendo, that really, really high knot, and everything stops. This is what is happening at this point. There is such energy coming through. And even if you are very busy and have no conscious awareness of it, which majority the planet will not it is coming into being and it is lighting up, literally light. It is light coming in that is moving up the frequency, and because it is happening to the planet as well and the energies of the planet, it is shifting and moving the light so high that everything is attuning to each other as one, like a big blast off. And what it is doing is it is syncing up hearts, syncing up hearts all across the planet. And you might think, Well, I do not know if I want my heart to sync up with all sorts of people. You might even think of people in your mind that you think I don't really want to sync up with them. It is within the bandwidth that you are. And because of this, this is very comfortable. This is supportive, supportive of the collective energy, of the collaborative energy we are in now. And this amplifies, and it allows energy to lift up at people are talking, of of course, opening up a consciousness. The Consciousness has been open up for a long time now, the super conscious, the highways, the Self Mastery, where we are going from this point. And really, this has been building up, and things has been going on for particularly in the month of October, but even from before then, and we are now moving into the end of the year and beyond, where these frequencies, because it'd be too much, you know, everyone will go too much, too much if they felt it all in one but the energy is there, and it will start to manifest greater and greater and greater over the coming months and into the year, the next year ahead, into a new era of creativity, of innovation, of invention. But most importantly of heart connection, heart led pioneers moving into a frontier unknown. And I am aware this is coming across as very, very excited. We have been waiting for this. We have been prepping people, not just for years or decades. This has been prepped with humanity for hundreds, you could say 1000s of years. Yes, there have been lots and lots of other big shifts along the way, and will be afterwards, the timing, however, of the the the being the energy, the rock, let us simply put it, that is the messenger that is actually being able to poke and make everything happen. Greater. Is bringing in an influx of such strong energy and energies from other supernovas and so forth, that is being carrying in its tail, as it were, in its wake, is bringing in a new level of plasma energy, but also energy which can repopulate much of what has been, the resources that are gone, the minerals and so forth in your planet. So we are very excited, because it is a rebirth, really, for the planet that is happening. Understand, yes, I talk much. I talk much, keeping up yes?

Alex Ferrari 39:05
Yes, absolutely. So when 3I/Atlas gets here, is it going to be? How is it going to give us this energy? When is it supposed to get here and so on?

Janet Treloar 39:16
Is here now. Haha, now, the reason why we say this, it is on a very particular trajectory through your solar system, one that will take in and activate certain other planets within at the moment it is in a very close you could even call it a communication with your solar with your sun, and then, of course, eventually it will move closely as well to the earth. Now, in all of this, we have to think in a way that is so much vaster than the earth, when you are living on earth, and the size of Earth, we can. Often think something has to be very, very close by. However, when we are in the actual giganticness of this universe and the multiverses beyond all it needs to be is within the proximity. So the proximity is in most of the solar system that you are having as it is moving at such a pace and velocity, building up speed, a bit like the old saying of the the boulder moving, you know, then it's picking up, you know, pick up all the debris as it goes. I like a snowball. That is a better way. Yes, whenever your own helper guides here is saying, use the analogy of a snowball. You know, you have the snow, and as it starts moving, it picks up, picks up more and more as this has traveled through space, through other parts of the universe, as it has moved into your cuboid of the universe, it has picked up a lot of extra energy, which is being held around it. And you could say, I often use the expression, a bit like fairy dust. It is being sprinkled into your solar system, but particularly as it gets closer to Earth, then you will really get this energy. Now it is not like it is going to rain from the sky and everyone has to put their umbrella up. This is something that will happen over time, where it is very gradual. As you know, you are all created, your actual physical self from stardust. It has come from the stars, and this is an influx of that very rich mineral, rich energy coming through, but combined with the plasma, and your world is learning far more about the state of plasma, and actually how you manifest from the energy state of the of pure energy into the physical manifestation always moves through the plasma. So it is here, and it is as soon as it really started to enter, even when your scientists first started to notice it, you were already starting to get the benefits. But now that it is moving in this trajectory all the way through, particularly up until the 24th of December, and how close, of course, that is to the solstice, you will be having this emission that is coming. So from a personal point of view, we would very much encourage people to be very, very aware of grounding their energy, very aware of their electrical, magnetic energy, of being mindful to actually look after themselves in their foods and other such things in such a way release a lot. You may feel lots of energy for celebration or for movement, for sport, whatever it may be a movement, a shaking of energy through you, and then go back to the grounding of it. The more you can do this, the more you can naturally infuse yourself with this energy and be lit up, literally lit up from the inside out, so that we move into this time of living light on Eart. Understand, yes?

Alex Ferrari 43:10
Yes, yes, yes. Do you what do you see for humanity over the next five years? 10 years? Because it's been a heck of a ride ever since 2012 really. But it's been, it's been ramping up since 2020 so where do you see? What do you see for humanity in the next five to 10 years?

Janet Treloar 43:29
First of all, you are living on a planet which is naturally has polarity. It even has poles, you know, and you have night and day and all this sort of thing. Therefore there is a fairy tale view that everybody will be skipping around and there will be no war, no suffering, no anything, and everything will be wonderful. We are moving in that direction. What we would say, however, is a more of a realistic pace. Now, what this actually means is, in this year that you are living at this time, we have moved out of a very, very long period where the priority was destruction energy, of a breakdown to break through, and now the priority, the stronger energy, is one of creation. Creation was always there, but it was having such a tussle, because the destruction had to take place. And then this is emitted, not just in people's personal lives and manifesting in that way, but globally and so forth. The longer people are living in a time of creation and get used to it, because it does take a time. Even with our as we all know, if we have a very bad habit and on a conscious level, we we want to change it, it still takes a while. It doesn't go, oh, I will just change that. It takes a while because a habit. Is there, and you are all in a habit of being used to destruction energy. Therefore, the more people embrace the creation energy that comes in, the more that people say, Yes, I have been taught all about lack and destruction. But now what I really want to focus on is abundance, abundance in all things, in actually creating. You are creating light after this goes through, as we move into the nature, you will actually be seeing people. Do not be surprised if there are individuals who literally emit light from them. So you are a source, not just a creation. Everyone has the creation fire within the sacral and moving through them. But this is a source where everything that you do should you desire it to be so can move into the greater creation energy. Now, more people that get used to this, the more that people start to actually interact with the creation energy, the more that people will see that it is creation. Energy is not just for an individual. Yes, you could say you could look at creation in terms of beauty and art and people creating wonderful things. And it may be one person, seemingly on the front that is doing it, but actually the greater experiences of the world of life is about collaboration, when we can bring creativity into the collaboration. We are literally creating empathy and compassion within that collaboration, when we see another as we see ourselves, when we understand someone else's pain, when we understand someone else's desires, understands other people's points of view, and you get more of an even playing field, you get more of a state of being that doesn't heighten the more uncomfortable emotions, But brings about the lighter and more curious emotions where people are actually wanting to not just collaborate and enforce their views on another, but to be open to sharing, to actually relax. So these next few years, we are seeing that there will be more space for people to relax and be to be more that presence we were talking about whilst being in collaboration, if we put aside fears of, what does it actually mean to open my heart to another, which is something that people have been going through, I'm moving through, and actually move into a place where we excited about collaboration, then you get this amplification, This battery, energy, and everything we have just been speaking of, can really start to move through and to enlighten into a real golden era, a golden era of change, change for ecology, for the planet, change for the livelihoods of people, change for the betterment in terms of how people understand each other, how people listen to each other. Therefore, what we would actually say is, even though, of course, there may be struggles and strife and other such things that happen in the world, because, you know, you are all human beings, having a human experience and moving through things, we see greater amount of light and sharing that is coming from the collaboration the collect and the collective forces, but also this oneness, this sharing and this great creativity, which will create the pathways that cannot even be imagined At this time of how this will look, so that people are still feeling incredibly valued and moved through and moving away from quite a lot of the capitalism and materialism into a state of the priority being about oneness and emotional health and well being really understand, yes, my dear?

Alex Ferrari 49:03
Yes, yes. Now, how can we release collective fear and anchor more light into the world while this chaos is happening around us?

Janet Treloar 49:13
Good intention. Aha. Sounds very simple. Fear is very paralyzing, and holds one in a state of non movement, not moving up, not moving down, almost like, you know, the day in headlights, you know, even have fight or flight, do we not? You know. But there is also another state where you just become very paralyzed, very numb, and this is what has been happening a lot with the levels of fear to be able to get on with all the responsibilities people have in the world today, people's lives are so much busier than they were hundreds of years ago and so forth. They will always be. See. But now there are so many demands, morning, noon and night, that when fears come up, if they are not to be broached straight away, a lot of people can go into a paralysis, a numb state. And this we have seen a lot with collective fear almost, you know, let us put that on the back burner. Deal with that later. Let's put a pin in it. Now is the time to take the pin out. Does not mean to say just with our individual fears, where it is often useful to confront them, to move through them, to shift and change them. When we are looking at collective fear, it is more about letting them go, to release them, to say they have no hold on me anymore. One of the reasons why collective fear of all sorts of things remain is a fear of history repeating itself. And of course, your history books have shown you that this happens time and time again. And not so long ago, we were talking about cycles and things spiraling. And this is why a lot of the collective fear is held in the ether, literally in the energy around you and through different dimensional spaces as well, and it is so easy to connect when we drop into certain frequencies with those collective fears. However, if it's one, and everybody can do this from their homes, maybe even when they have that present state that we were talking about, having those moments of calm, of presence, of listening, of simply saying, I release, and I release, on behalf of all my brothers and sisters and others across this planet, any fear that is holding back from truly engaging with the light. Now, sounds very simple, but the intention is pure, and the universe listens. You can imagine, just like you might be keeping clutter in your home, and it is there, day in, day out, until you do something about it. And sometimes it is simple as saying, I don't need that anymore, and taking it all out and get rid of it. And then it is clear a lot of the collective fears are like this. They have been in the ether, and they may be from generations before, ancestors before, and things that are not even that relevant to you now, but it is being held because there is a concern, a collective concern of humanity. This might come again. This may come again. We may not know what to do. However, if we release them, then we are making space in the ether, through the plasma, you could say, for the light to come in. And then that is where new ideas, new ways of being, and you move out of a paralysis, numb state into a period of motion. And it is through motion, change happens. Often say zachism. Janet calls them, haha. She's given a name to them now, Jack isms, said for many, many years, sounds very simple, but hold it close to your heart. Allow change to change you. You are part of a wonderful, great explosion of new energy on your planet, and you and everybody can choose to embrace it and run with it, or push it back, and one of the ways of pushing it back is to go into the collective fear instead, however, simply by having the knowledge of this isn't a build up that cannot be moved. Everybody is so powerful now, why? Is the reason? Otherwise all of this increase of frequency, it is not that everyone wants to be blinded by the light and have so much light, the youthfulness of it is the power. And we are talking about power, not force. You can think of it as divine power, source energy. It is simply pumping through you. And with your intention, you can use it for betterment, for yourself and for others. And so by actually joining in in this way and just simply saying, I release those collective fears on behalf of all, I release them and allow them to transmute into something beautiful and new, and this allows the light in, and then this allows you to move collectively into a base past fears of the path, and to instigate, in a way, into the ether a brand new even is it, you know, we see it as sacred geometry. We see the patterns that are created we see in times of great war and strife. How difficult these are. You often see this with water particles and other when hatred another is given to them, when we see it in the ether. But what we see with the fear is this paralyzed numbness. When the light comes in, it opens up and it allows the new, long answer again. Sorry for that, my dear, understand, yes, my dear?

Alex Ferrari 55:24
Yes. So the next question I have is, What is the biggest misconception people have of the Ascended Masters?

Janet Treloar 55:31
That the ascended masters were perfect. It is understandable as human beings. You want to look, to aspire to another. One of the reasons that the Ascended Masters lived upon the planet chose human lives was to be able to learn before they stepped into their divinity, to experience, to be both friend and foe to others, to experience losses as well as gains, and to not always make the right choice or to do the right thing. It is very natural to look to Ascended Masters and say, but they were here on the planet, and they did it right. And what you're often looking at is the end product, haha, you know, the ideal article. However, the beauty of what the Ascended Masters bring through and when they transmit. And right now here, I can talk very, very much in terms of as to our goal, what we actually brought through was, yes, this amalgamation, but with a great love for the chosen strife of being human, what we can do as Ascended Masters is to love the parts of you that you find difficult to love about yourself, to see these as beautiful little kernels, a bit like a popcorn, you know, little pieces of corn ready to pop. We can see the future, this mystery we were talking of, of all the different potentials, all the different ways that you will get there, and we revel in it. We celebrate it. So when you are attuning or you are wishing to converse or connect with any of the Ascended Masters, remember that they are seeing beauty in the parts of you that you cannot see. They are not really interested in the finished article, they are not overly concerned. Should you say, Well, I've done this, I've done that. I'm here. They'll say, Well, good for you, but let's look at the bits that you don't want to look at, and this is where they will really help you through. This is where they can enlighten you and to help you to discover that you too can ascend in just the same way, but in your own individual pathway, because you are unique as you you do not have to emulate anyone else's way, because every single life is so stupendous on this planet. Whether you can look at it and think, Oh, well, I do this. I do that. The interior of yourself, your energy, who you have created, yourself as a persona, and how you live your life, this is what the Ascended Masters look at. They do not look like what you have but what you give. You know, they don't look at how many people that love you. They look at how many people you love. You understand, yes, and this is where the Ascended Masters have a very different world from archangels and other types of being. And I would like to say, as Zachariah, still have this in me as dual call. You know, I put all the different parts of me in myself and then come across but it's just so comfortable to be Zachariah. I was so comfortable in that life that it is easier in this way, but understand this regarding the Ascended Masters yes?

Alex Ferrari 59:15
Yes, thank you so much for that. And my final question is, what final message would you share with those who are ready to embody their divine essence in human form?

Janet Treloar 59:27
It's a very strange one, you might think, but I would say, allow yourself to be human first before you choose to change a pathway to emulate something lighter, brighter, something that you always are in the energetic world, and a version of you is always existing there. Not all of your soul, only a little bit of your soul is in this personality and this being that you that you refer to when you see in the mirror. What I would say is immerse yourself in being human, because this is what you came here to be. Now that does not mean to say, Oh, I allow all my human instincts just to run riot, but start to learn from yourself. What does it feel like when I experience this, that or the other? How do I react? And then, not just how do I react, but then how do I choose to act? The wonderful thing about human is that you have free will and you have choice. Many people only really discover this on their deathbed, and that is a shame. However, as you grow and you shift and you change. Embrace your humanity, embrace the beauty of being who you are in this world, whilst choosing pathways that you would wish to be in the world and to discover yourself and to be able to have, therefore, walk a path with love, walk a path with grace, with kindness, with compassion. Allow yourself to learn self mastery in a way that is compatible and compliable with you. Allow yourself to grow at the speed that you would wish. And like any plants in nature would tell you, water yourself often, you know, give yourself good nutrition. Allow yourself to look at the light, allow yourself to bathe in the beauty. Allow yourself to have fun. This is one of the most wonderful things about being human. Enjoy the life you know, immerse yourself in all of these things. The more you notice your choices, however, the more you can start to shift and change into a more enlightened life by simply being and learning how to be in these parts, most of all, my dears, Be kind. Be kind to yourself, be kind to others, and then whole worlds will open up to you you could not even imagine. Haha, understand. Yes, my dear?

Alex Ferrari 1:02:18
Yes. Thank you so much for being here Zac, it's such a pleasure talking to you.

Janet Treloar 1:02:21
Good, good, good. I will leave you now my day. It has been a pleasure and particularly to talk on this most auspicious of day. The energy is high and wide and free. Is it not good? Good. Goodbye, my dear, goodbye, hello!

Alex Ferrari 1:02:40
And she's and she's back,

Janet Treloar 1:02:41
And she's back, she's back in the room.

Alex Ferrari 1:02:46
His accent is very interesting. It, I can't it's dodgy, the accent, it's like, it has, like, a bit of South African, Australian, New Zealand.

Janet Treloar 1:03:02
It's a loop. You know, all of this amazing information comes out, but me as Janet, I've got over it. Now, after all these years, I just used to be mortified at what it sounded like. I can't do an accent at all. And I can't actually do Zac's accent. It was sort of this weird combination that he was Zachariah of Syria. But people used to say, Oh, I've got, you know, I know people in sort of Northern India and Tibet that sound like him. So I thought maybe it's like the dwell cool thing. But I've learned over the years, because he just finds it funny that I cringe at the very, very dodgy and, you know, cancel culture, Jesus, the sort of the, the how it actually sounds coming out. But I've learned now that actually, as it comes through, there's something about the frequency he talks about the frequency of certain words, he is a way that he actually transmits the energy that he's talking about, so how it actually hits people. So not so much what they're hearing, but how it's actually traveling through them. But yeah, my very English way of putting this. Is a very dodgy accent.

Alex Ferrari 1:04:05
That's a very English way of putting it. No question. Janet, where can people find out more about you and the amazing work you're doing with Zac?

Janet Treloar 1:04:12
Well, we have a patron site called Zac's portal, and there's so much there. We've had it going for about six years. At this time, we are keeping everything open for people. So everything's on there. There are these deep dives, cosmic classrooms, and also he does these incredible meditations, and we release these every month. And could also actually find we have monthly Zac chats as well, which are free, which are now up on YouTube as well. That's also called Zac's portal. And we would love people to find us there. There's my website as well, which is planet-therapies.com, and yeah, we would just love to join you, if you resonate with Zac's message. He is all about. Our hearts desire, self mastery and holding our hands and, and, you know, going, you know, having fun with it as well. Of this whole life's journey, as you can hear from everything he's saying. He's a massive fan of us as humans and and, you know, I'm just, I've just feel really blessed and privileged to be able to be a vehicle for him, so that he can be there in the world for whatever people need.

Alex Ferrari 1:05:27
And we're in. Do you have any final messages or blessings for the audience?

Janet Treloar 1:05:31
I say just be that's something that I've really learned. It sounds so glib like, oh B, but we don't. We're all just so busy. Take time to be and learn about yourself who you really are. Because when we actually do that, I think we find a lot of acceptance with all sorts of other things in our life. There's so much more. But I think if it's one little, one little takeaway, I would say, just, just be and and be kind to yourself. He talks about kindness so much. He's taught me a lot about kindness. Just really go into that hard space we're in this time of heart transcendence now and love who you find there.

Alex Ferrari 1:06:16
Beautiful. Beautiful Jen, it's been such a pleasure talking to you and Zac, today, it is been a joy, and I appreciate you and everything you're doing to awaken this planet. So thank you so much.

Janet Treloar 1:06:28
Thank you, Alex. It's been great, wonderful. Thank you!